Interviewed by Lyce Doucet. 28th August 2026
Two of the people I most admire were in conversation this morning at the Book Festival, former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown and BBC international affairs journalist Lyse Doucet. Unlike most former political leaders, Brown has been busy trying to make the world a better place in all sorts of ways. At home, he’s thrown himself into supporting the Fife Multibank, the charity that redistributes surplus goods from warehouses to poor or on benefits. Abroad, he’s a global ambassador on poverty, particularly with a focus on improving access to education for girls. In that respect he and Lyse Doucet have common cause, and there was clear respect and chemistry between the two. There was a little plug for the Linda Norgrove Foundation which brings some girls from Afghanistan to Scotland to complete studies.
Here, he had a new book to promote, The Future Starts With Us. Brown talked for much of the time about the factors and individuals who are responsible for the breakdown of community, peppered with amusing anecdotes – he’s surprisingly funny. Brown has been a major player on the world stage for so long that he’s met many global figures, and can count many as personal friends. I can see why; this is a genuine man with real passions, not fake.
Eventually, he moved on to the thrust of the book, how to improve our sense of community, both local and global. My biggest takeaway was when he drew on his fellow Kirkcaldy writer, the eighteenth century philosopher Adam Smith, author of The Wealth of Nations. It’s a much-misunderstood book, of course, one in which Smith writes of ‘circles of empathy’. Naturally, we empathise more with those we know and love far more than those in far-off countries, but that changes if we learn more about them. Trading with them more is simply part of that process, of course. Brown encourages us to think in terms of ‘circles of empathy’ rather than the zero-sum game of ‘them and us’.
It’s always good to have something worthwhile to take away from any meeting.
Till the next time,
Gordon



